What is Probate?

By Patricia Louise Nelson of Two Spruce Law P.C.

I am often asked “What is probate?” Probate is the court implementation of an estate when someone dies. I want to answer several common questions about probate.

The most frequently asked question is “Just a second. The person who died had a will. Doesn’t that avoid probate?” Unfortunately, it does not. A will can specify who receives assets, but it has no ability to implement itself. A will needs probate to implement it. On the other hand, a revocable living trust – if it is properly managed – does work to avoid probate

So why avoid probate? Well, there are three primary reasons to avoid probate in my mind. One, it is public, anyone can go to the courthouse and access the probate file. That file will include information about heirs and devisees, assets, and other private information. For many people, that alone is enough of a reason to avoid probate.

Another drawback of probate is that it is time consuming. Even with a firm like Two Spruce Law that does a lot of work in probate, it takes 7-9 months to complete the process. Most of that time is caused by required notice periods in the Oregon Probate Code.

The third drawback of probate is that it is expensive. It very frequently costs $6-8,000 in attorney fees plus another $1,350 in other costs such as court filing fees, publication costs, and recording fees, to complete the probate process.

In certain limited circumstances, subjecting an estate to probate is worth doing despite the drawbacks of probate. Specifically, probate has the effect of “cutting of claims of unknown creditors.” Say what? Because part of the probate process is publishing notice of the probate in the tiny print in the back of the newspaper, all creditors about which we may not be aware of are limited to presenting their claims within 4 months of the date of first publication or they are limited to the insurance the deceased person had; they cannot expect payment from the deceased person’s assets after that timeline. Bear in mind that these are “unknown” creditors – we cannot ignore creditors we know about and hope they are limited in a similar way. There are other ways of dealing with known creditors and even suspected creditors. So, call us if you know about a creditor you want to avoid in a probate.

Do you have to have an attorney to complete a probate? The technical answer is “no.” The practical answer in Oregon is “I think you should.” Oregon’s probate code is not simple or easy to comply with without an attorney. We do not charge for initial calls about probates, so give us a call to see if we might be a good fit for you and your situation.

By Patricia Louise Nelson of Two Spruce Law

There are a couple of times you when being divorced and being in the process of getting divorce justifies updating your estate plan. One situation is if you are getting divorced and you want to avoid your soon-to-be-ex-spouse from receiving any of your assets. The other situation is if you get divorced after putting in place an estate plan that benefits your former spouse.

During the process of divorcing, you are allowed to prepare a new estate plan intentionally giving your spouse nothing, if you are no longer living together as a married couple. If you need to live together as a couple, your soon-to-be-former spouse is entitled to an “elective share” under Oregon law. The elective share is a portion of your assets. It is a sliding scale, which depends on the length of the marriage. The longer the marriage, the higher percent of your assets to which your spouse is entitled. Give us a call so we can help you figure out how the Oregon elective share impacts your situation. Of course, if you have a prenuptial agreement, you are likely allowed to leave nothing to your former spouse, depending on the terms of the prenuptial agreement.

The second situation is if you get divorced after your estate plan is in place. In this situation, the provisions in the estate plan naming the now-former spouse as a fiduciary or giving the now-former spouse assets are revoked by the divorce process. The estate planning documents do not need to be changed unless you want some other terms changed – the spouse is removed by the divorce paperwork. Often, the estate plan needs to be updated for other reasons, so if you are not sure then call us to discuss the terms of your estate plan in light of your divorce.

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